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you're not going to -- >> i'm also a deficit hawk, joe. >> you are a deficit hawk. and, howard, i know obama won the election, but in this country you need the house to vote on something to make it law, and if they just say no the 39.6 on the high end, if you just let -- go over the cliff, it's going to 39.6. there would be in discussing it. it's going there. >> let's be fair about this. i mean, what i'm proposing is not -- neither the republicans nor the democrats like. because not only does it go to 39.6 on the wealthy which i support, but it also goes back to what people were paying when bill clinton was president for the middle-class and the truth of the matter is no matter what people said in the election, you cannot solve this deficit problem without everybody paying more taxes not just rich people. >> you can go to 100% and not 39.6. you'd like to in a perfect world, i know you, you would like to go to 100%. but you're not going to be able to do that. >> only on television personality. >> you go from raising, like, $80 billion a year which on a trillion dolla
you're not going to -- >> i'm also a deficit hawk, joe. >> you are a deficit hawk. and, howard, i know obama won the election, but in this country you need the house to vote on something to make it law, and if they just say no the 39.6 on the high end, if you just let -- go over the cliff, it's going to 39.6. there would be in discussing it. it's going there. >> let's be fair about this. i mean, what i'm proposing is not -- neither the republicans nor the democrats like....
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. >> howard dean is a deficit hawk. liberal, but he is a deficit hawk. he doesn't say maybe if we can't get a deal together, maybe we'd be okay with the fiscal cliff. he says that is the best deal for everyone, the best deal for progressives, just to do it. to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double trigger. if you go over the cliff, we've got the debt ceiling fight right afterwards. it's not like that's six months down the line. that's in if first month, six weeks of the new year. >> the other thing, dependi
. >> howard dean is a deficit hawk. liberal, but he is a deficit hawk. he doesn't say maybe if we can't get a deal together, maybe we'd be okay with the fiscal cliff. he says that is the best deal for everyone, the best deal for progressives, just to do it. to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only...
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the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this world where we may spend, and we may even have a pop from government spending. it's never sustained. and all it creates is this huge discussion which underminds business confidence of how we're going to pay for the debt. we have exposed, i think, the achilles heel of keynesian economics. >> i broadly agree with you. in 2008, 2009, i think the fiscal stimulus made a lot of sense. but i think that we're at a point now where the economy is strong enough that we need to get started on the fiscal adjustment. we've got to make sure it's not too many. i'd say something on the order
the deficit's declined in the last three years and tax revenues are rising. spending has been flat for the last two and a half years so the pressure is moving in the right direction. the worry for me is if you raise taxes and cut spending now you're going to knock back growth and prevent that acceleration in revenue. you've got gdp growth up to 3 or 3.5, the revenue implications are enormous. because revenue tends to spike -- >> and nobody believes it. that's the problem. we're into this...
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it doesn't solve the deficit. it's about eight days of federal spending, certainly isn't good for the economy. i think the question senator casey made this point, it isn't exactly the number, it's how we get to that new revenue. we really believe that the key is to fix this broken tax code to generate a stronger economy and the revenue that comes with it, in addition to authentic spending discipline and we need to find a bipartisan solution to save social security and medicare. i think chairman casey and i could work that out. we have a long way to go. >> senator and congressman you emphasized the importance of middle income families and supporting job creation. one thing congress has to decide is the future of the payroll tax cut which many believe has been an important support for economic growth over the last couple of years. where do the two of you stand on continuing the payroll tax cut? >> larry i introduced legislation which has two parts, one is to extend the payroll tax cut as you and others have made cle
it doesn't solve the deficit. it's about eight days of federal spending, certainly isn't good for the economy. i think the question senator casey made this point, it isn't exactly the number, it's how we get to that new revenue. we really believe that the key is to fix this broken tax code to generate a stronger economy and the revenue that comes with it, in addition to authentic spending discipline and we need to find a bipartisan solution to save social security and medicare. i think chairman...
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david, how much of the deficit, if we let the bush tax cuts sunset, how much of the deficit goes away? >> well, a significant percentage. >> like three quarters of it. >> it's not a good thing to do. it's going to push us back. >> when is it a good time? >> we need a down payment of both revenue and spending reductions, but we need to achieve four to five trillion over ten years through a grand bargain and we have to make sure that we're going to achieve a lot more than that beyond the ten years because we have 10,000 people a day retiring. health care costs are still out of control and we have to look long-term. that's why we say debt to gdp. >> somebody just sent in a really good question. that is with the president's health care plans, with obama care, does that change the debt to gdp in terms of taxes going up? >> it makes it worse. >> it's already going up. >> the affordable care act expanded cover an to 36 million people. it did not do enough to control costs. there are positive aspects of it, but according to the chief actuary of medicare, it's estimated to cost $12 trillion mo
david, how much of the deficit, if we let the bush tax cuts sunset, how much of the deficit goes away? >> well, a significant percentage. >> like three quarters of it. >> it's not a good thing to do. it's going to push us back. >> when is it a good time? >> we need a down payment of both revenue and spending reductions, but we need to achieve four to five trillion over ten years through a grand bargain and we have to make sure that we're going to achieve a lot more...
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i thought the deficit was a big rob and want to a measure that helps reduce the deficit help the economy? >> i just don't know. in the capital gains sense i personally think and i think it's also been proven in the past if you lower rates it increases the revenue to the government. we should be focused on revenue generation. >> let's talk about reality because you're somebody who has money and is looking at situations like this. has it changed your behavior on investments, you could make, you would make down the road? >> that's a great question. i would say me personally probably not. but, you know, i just -- when i look at the rest of the world and i look -- i can't understand it and i can't really know why do you think it is, why is there so much cash on the sidelines and earning such a low rate of return as we just saw pointed out? why aren't they investing it into things? what is holding it? i don't know -- >> what's happening at quicken loans, i know it's a privately held company. what are you doing in terms of jobs, in terms of -- >> we are doing really well. we positioned ourselve
i thought the deficit was a big rob and want to a measure that helps reduce the deficit help the economy? >> i just don't know. in the capital gains sense i personally think and i think it's also been proven in the past if you lower rates it increases the revenue to the government. we should be focused on revenue generation. >> let's talk about reality because you're somebody who has money and is looking at situations like this. has it changed your behavior on investments, you could...